{"id":64178,"date":"2024-05-03T12:30:00","date_gmt":"2024-05-03T10:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/webdev.santacole.com\/?post_type=historia&#038;p=64178"},"modified":"2026-04-07T15:50:14","modified_gmt":"2026-04-07T13:50:14","slug":"five-design-approaches-with-renato-de-fusco","status":"publish","type":"story","link":"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/en\/story\/five-design-approaches-with-renato-de-fusco\/","title":{"rendered":"Five design approaches with Renato de Fusco"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"block-header pt-sc-layout-grid-padding-column-rythm-xl pb-sc-spacing-padding-sm align wp-block-santacole-block-section-header\">\n\n    \n            <div class=\"px-sc-spacing-padding-md\">\n\n                <div class=\"pb-sc-spacing-padding-sm\">  \n                    <button class=\"sc-btn sc-button-sm sc-button-link\" type=\"button\">\n                        <a href=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/en\/stories\/\" target=\"_self\" class=\"w-full h-full flex items-center justify-center\">\n                            <i class=\"!text-base icon-arrow-left\"><\/i>\n                            <span class=\"flex align-items-center\">\n                                View all Stories                            <\/span>\n                        <\/a>\n                    <\/button>\n                <\/div>\n\n                <div class=\"pb-sc-spacing-padding-sm\">\n                    <h2 style=\"font-weight:400;line-height:1.2;\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-h-2-font-size\">\n                        Archives                    <\/h2>\n                <\/div>\n\n                                    <p class=\"has-text-align-left is-style-default has-lg-font-size pb-sc-layout-grid-padding-column-rythm-md w-full lg:w-2\/3\">\n                        De Fusco was a prominent Italian designer recognized for his significant contribution to the field of industrial and architectural design. To commemorate his extensive and influential literary work, we have selected excerpts from an interview conducted by Francesca Rinaldi in 2011, which is found in the book\u00a0History of Design.                    <\/p>\n                                    \n            <\/div>\n\n                \n<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3ece0061 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--lg);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-xl);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--lg)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9c22b1e3 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:80%\">\n<div class=\"block-image group w-full relative !bg-sc-color-border  overflow-hidden aspect-8\/5 flex justify-center items-center\" style=\"\">\n\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link dentro del bloque imagen -->\n        \n    <!-- Simple -->\n    \n        <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1700\" height=\"1202\" src=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700.jpg\" class=\"  w-full h-full object-cover\" alt=\"06-x1700\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700.jpg 1700w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700-600x424.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700-1280x905.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700-300x212.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700-768x543.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/06-x1700-1200x848.jpg 1200w\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>        \n        <!-- Caption inside -->\n        \n    \n    <!-- Hover overlay -->\n    \n    <!-- Slider gallery -->\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link cierre -->\n    \n<\/div>\n\n<!-- Simple (Caption outside) -->\n    \n    <!-- Caption outside -->\n    \n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-e20956ca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-lg);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:15%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-vertical is-content-justification-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-ce155fab wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-suisse-intl-font-family has-lead-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\">An interview with Renato de Fusco by Francesca Rinaldi<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-suisse-intl-font-family has-md-font-size\">The final hour of a March afternoon in Renato de Fusco\u2019s studio. A sanctuary of books awaits us, the meticulous hospitality ritual by a priest of the architectural and artistic culture of these years, who is torn between chronic doubts and passionate certainties; his brow often frowned by an intuition constantly surprising us all; a paused, iterative gesture, consolidated by the methodical study that begins at dawn and concludes at night with the umpteenth book project. Always in pursuit of an idea to fall in love with and to tire himself with. With eagerness and speed, burning down phases. Because the dedication to an artwork keeps us alive; it is the reason to live.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-suisse-intl-font-family has-md-font-size\">In February 2011, De Fusco concluded a series of five meetings on design at the Palazzo delle Arti in Naples. As expected, it was a great success with the audience. He talks with us about it all, summarising themes and trends.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:15%\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-589adf4f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-ecfd3ef3 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"block-image group w-full relative !bg-sc-color-border  overflow-hidden aspect-2\/3 flex justify-center items-center\" style=\"\">\n\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link dentro del bloque imagen -->\n        \n    <!-- Simple -->\n    \n        <img 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https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-367-x2400-768x1112.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-367-x2400-1200x1737.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-367-x2400.jpg 1658w\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>        \n        <!-- Caption inside -->\n        \n    \n    <!-- Hover overlay -->\n    \n    <!-- Slider gallery -->\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link cierre -->\n    \n<\/div>\n\n<!-- Simple (Caption outside) -->\n    \n    <!-- Caption outside -->\n    \n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"block-image group w-full relative !bg-sc-color-border  overflow-hidden aspect-2\/3 flex justify-center items-center\" style=\"\">\n\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link dentro del bloque imagen -->\n        \n    <!-- Simple -->\n    \n        <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1928\" src=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-1280x1928.jpg\" class=\"  w-full h-full object-cover\" alt=\"historia-256-x2400\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-1280x1928.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-600x904.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-300x452.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-768x1157.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400-1200x1808.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/historia-256-x2400.jpg 1593w\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>        \n        <!-- Caption inside -->\n        \n    \n    <!-- Hover overlay -->\n    \n    <!-- Slider gallery -->\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link cierre -->\n    \n<\/div>\n\n<!-- Simple (Caption outside) -->\n    \n    <!-- Caption outside -->\n    \n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-c04d37ed wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md);padding-bottom:0;padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-374fa393 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong>What has been the central idea of these conversations around design?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">They are usually my own proposals. And as you rightly say using Miralles phrase, the problem is always the same: What are we looking for at a particular time? And one expression that inspires me is \u201cdomesticating light.\u201d Light is vital and basic, but can be aggressive, you have to domesticate it, you have to take it home. Hence the word \u201cdomus\u201d. And that is always the challenge: how to take light home. From there on, I look for ways and excuses to do various projects, always pivoting on that same foundation or problem.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">In the history of design, there was then a conflict between the designer\u2019s culture and the public\u2019s culture, who did not accept that taste. Thus, the basic principle (quantity, quality and low price: a circle in which time was money and mass production guaranteed a low selling price) endured until design intervened as an aesthetic factor, or until, in any case, poorly made objects and copies of objects from the past began to be produced at low prices. The intervention of William Morris and others was a response to this degradation of design, with the idea of dignifying objects. Therefore, the design industry, in order to save quality production, found itself practicing the opposite policy: instead of many cheap replicas, it decided to produce few copies at a high cost.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong>From all the conclusions on this subject, which one did you feel most urgently needed to be communicated to the public?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">The idea of the four-leaf clover. The book was successful (twenty reprints) and I have been susccessful myself because it was called Historia del Dise\u00f1o, the first one to have the courage to use the term \u00abhistory\u00bb in the title. The other trick was that I did not provide a univocal definition of design, but rather presented its phenomenology. The episode of Henry Ford is enlightening. Ford had the brilliant idea of introducing three shifts to cover the entire workday. Higher wages for workers for increased production and a greater number of items at a lower price. The assembly line. Before Ford, there was Frederick Taylor with his organisation of production in sectors. Division of labor is what allowed this evolution and, with Ford, it reached a certain level of perfection. The Model T could be everyone\u2019s car, garnished with catchy slogans (\u201cAny color you want, as long as it is black\u201d) and with proper advertising promotion. The automobile enters into design only if the designer considers technical issues and not purely aesthetic ones (of silhouette and form). The real designer was Henry Ford. Therefore, the phenomenology of design is not just the four-leaf clover but the link between the four phases.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong>However, by directly linking the assembly line with the object of design, you do not establish a clear distinction between a design object and a generic object of serial production.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">No, because in the \u00abdesign\u00bb phase \u2013 as Giulio Carlo Argan also stated \u2013 the object contains a ne varietur (or precept of invariance) that must be contemplated during the stages of elaboration, until sale and consumption. Therefore, the strength of these four moments lies in their indivisibility. Extending to other topics, I venture to say that even the issue of waste comes from a project that also foresees the death of the useful object.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-324dc22d wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"block-image group w-full relative !bg-sc-color-border  overflow-hidden aspect-4\/3 flex justify-center items-center\" style=\"\">\n\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link dentro del bloque imagen -->\n        \n    <!-- Simple -->\n    \n        <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"905\" src=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-1280x905.jpg\" class=\"  w-full h-full object-cover\" alt=\"05-x1700\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-1280x905.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-600x424.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-300x212.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-768x543.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700-1200x848.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/05-x1700.jpg 1700w\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>        \n        <!-- Caption inside -->\n        \n    \n    <!-- Hover overlay -->\n    \n    <!-- Slider gallery -->\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link cierre -->\n    \n<\/div>\n\n<!-- Simple (Caption outside) -->\n    \n    <!-- Caption outside -->\n    \n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"block-image group w-full relative !bg-sc-color-border  overflow-hidden aspect-4\/3 flex justify-center items-center\" style=\"\">\n\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link dentro del bloque imagen -->\n        \n    <!-- Simple -->\n    \n        <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"905\" src=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-1280x905.jpg\" class=\"  w-full h-full object-cover\" alt=\"03-x1700\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-1280x905.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-600x424.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-300x212.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-768x543.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700-1200x848.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.santacole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/03-x1700.jpg 1700w\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>        \n        <!-- Caption inside -->\n        \n    \n    <!-- Hover overlay -->\n    \n    <!-- Slider gallery -->\n    \n    <!-- Si hay link cierre -->\n    \n<\/div>\n\n<!-- Simple (Caption outside) -->\n    \n    <!-- Caption outside -->\n    \n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group scroll-fade-in is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-589adf4f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-374fa393 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--rythm-md)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong><strong>Over the past few years, has your perspective on throwaway consumption changed?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">It hasn\u2019t. Quite the opposite: disposable items have my full approval and embody the whole spirit of the times: functionality, a sense of economy, the reduction of effort, and the elimination of memory. Desmosine versus Mnemosine. Family inheritances are transcended. Disdain for the object: the object is no longer venerated as irreplaceable. And above all, economy. The three basic principles of design are fulfilled with disposable objects. But beware: the replacement of an object occurs not only through use but also through boredom, through weariness of the object. The durability of objects, once related to quality, is now a matter of choice. It is a mental duration: the object lasts as long as we want it to last.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong><strong>The disposable object has led to a voluntarist dimension of duration.<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">In a society where everything is consumed and consumption is vital, the circle remains interrupted. Otherwise, it means the crisis of the entire system. And then there is a tendency to replace everything virtually, which is alien to material culture. We should reclaim materiality: the factory against the stock exchange. However, at this point, I fear that a society where everything is consumed leaves no trace of itself. How can we remedy this? We must strive for the maximum quality of disposable objects, which currently makes everything disposable. Either because of the persuasive power of advertising media or because of people\u2019s fickleness. It is no coincidence that the cover of one of my books shows a ridiculous amount of objects that converge into a container-funnel and get lost. Perhaps the remedy is collecting. We preserve traces of the past because we find them buried by natural catastrophes or because of the intrinsic beauty of these objects that still manage to convince and fascinate us.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong><strong>Is this a matter of expanding their use or of nostalgic attachment?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">It is about an attachment to their form. In Rome, there is a whole mountain of preserved rubble. The design, in its ne varietur, must project not only the use and lifespan, but also the time of death. And thus include the final destination, its cemetery. Or else, incineration and recycling. The logical process of things cannot be stopped by preventing the construction of recycling plants. This is the final argument in the debate on design and industrial production. Design, as well as art, must take care of what is produced. Returning to IKEA: the unlimited consumption of objects leads to an eventual destruction of those same objects.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-md-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500\"><strong><strong>I<strong><strong><strong>s there any common ground between design and art?<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-indent-md has-md-font-size\">Let me tell you straight away: even in art, which has made life more complicated after the appearance of photography, isms have been generated as virtual substitutes for a non-existent clientele. The difference is that, unlike in architecture or design, in art the supply exceeds the demand. 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